The Who We Are update: Week 47

Wednesday May 9, 2007 04:08 PM

Who We Are

This week's forum is now a heritage item - worth studying but no longer current. For the latest on Australian attitudes and media trends, go to blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare.

To learn how Australian television tastes have changed since 1999, go to The Tribal Mind.

The ratings race, updated 10 am Sunday
Channel Seven consolidated its victory for the year, averaging 30.0 per cent of the prime time audience last week (a figure that includes the audience for 7TWO). Nine and GO drew 27.4, Ten and ONE 20.1, ABC1&2 17.1 and SBS1&2 5.4. Go below to see what women watched last week.

Pay TV boosted its share of viewing last week, apparently because the free to air stations seem to have declared the silly season two weeks early. This was Pay's account of itself: "The 'Tiger Woods show' topped the week with FOX Sport's coverage of Live: Golf: JBWere Masters drawing 152,000 viewers. In other sport, Rugby League: Four Nations was watched by 88,000 people, Live: Football: A-League Bris v Melb had 73,000 viewers and Live: Cricket: Ford Ranger Cup was seen by 69,000 people. Finally, in the early hours of Sunday morning, 63,000 dedicated fans watched the Socceroos beat Oman in Live: Football: AFC Asian Cup Qualifier Oman v Aust (all on FOX Sports).

"New Zealand's Next Top Model on FOX8 scored a season-to-date best result when it was seen by 127,000 viewers, Midsomer Murders on UKTV was seen by 119,000 people and The Contender Australia on FOX8 was watched by 92,000 people. Law & Order: SVU on TV1 was seen by 85,000 people, Location, Location, Location on Lifestyle was seen by 82,000 people and Dora the Explorer on Nick Jr. was watched by 78,000 people.

"In week 47, subscription TV was the number one choice for TV across Australia, with STV channels representing 22.3% of all metropolitan viewing between 6am and midnight, 22.6% of all regional viewing and 60.6% of all viewing in subscription TV homes."

What Women 25-54 watched, week ending November 21
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 PACKED TO THE RAFTERS Seven 576,000 174,000 162,000 110,000 54,000 76,000
2 BONES Seven 433,000 103,000 125,000 90,000 50,000 65,000
3 TWO AND A HALF MEN -MON Nine 430,000 121,000 139,000 88,000 32,000 50,000
4 NCIS Ten 378,000 115,000 106,000 78,000 37,000 42,000
5 CELEBRITY MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA Ten 369,000 141,000 104,000 58,000 27,000 39,000
6 PRIVATE PRACTICE-TUE Seven 364,000 118,000 103,000 61,000 32,000 50,000
7 FLASHFORWARD Seven 360,000 116,000 83,000 65,000 35,000 61,000
8 BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS Seven 358,000 116,000 107,000 58,000 28,000 49,000
9 THE FORCE - BEHIND THE LINE Seven 353,000 86,000 96,000 81,000 34,000 56,000
10 BEAUTY AND THE GEEK AUSTRALIA Seven 353,000 90,000 124,000 59,000 26,000 54,000
11 THE BIG BANG THEORY Nine 349,000 96,000 104,000 70,000 27,000 52,000
12 THE MENTALIST Nine 343,000 103,000 107,000 68,000 28,000 37,000
13 CRIMINAL MINDS-MON Seven 340,000 101,000 82,000 53,000 44,000 60,000
14 RSPCA ANIMAL RESCUE Seven 332,000 88,000 90,000 74,000 32,000 48,000
15 SPICKS AND SPECKS ABC1 328,000 95,000 93,000 67,000 33,000 41,000
16 AUSTRALIAN IDOL Ten 327,000 107,000 92,000 66,000 26,000 35,000

17 CASTLE Seven 325,000 66,000 117,000 54,000 44,000 44,000
18 20 TO 1 -TUE Nine 308,000 81,000 97,000 58,000 24,000 47,000
19 BORDER SECURITY Seven 308,000 74,000 88,000 78,000 24,000 44,000
20 THE AMAZING RACE 15 Seven 298,000 72,000 109,000 49,000 22,000 46,000
21 GLEE THURS Ten 296,000 81,000 75,000 67,000 31,000 42,000
22 LIE TO ME Ten 294,000 77,000 109,000 43,000 37,000 28,000
23 GOOD NEWS WEEK Ten 291,000 88,000 74,000 50,000 38,000 40,000
24 CSI: MIAMI Nine 289,000 80,000 83,000 66,000 34,000 28,000
25 60 MINUTES Nine 288,000 90,000 82,000 56,000 27,000 33,000
26 NCIS: LOS ANGELES Ten 287,000 92,000 67,000 57,000 33,000 38,000
27 SUNDAY NIGHT Seven 287,000 73,000 80,000 70,000 26,000 37,000
28 ROVE Ten 286,000 86,000 96,000 42,000 25,000 37,000
29 HIGHWAY PATROL Seven 284,000 74,000 94,000 58,000 28,000 30,000
30 SEVEN NEWS - SUN Seven 279,000 70,000 69,000 66,000 30,000 44,000
190 UGLY BETTY 7TWO 49,000 23,000 11,000 7,000 3,000 6,000
193 M-BIG 7TWO 49,000 5,000 17,000 8,000 7,000 11,000
196 THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS GO! 47,000 12,000 15,000 10,000 6,000 5,000
206 WIPEOUT GO! 43,000 9,000 11,000 10,000 7,000 6,000
212 M-KILL BILL: VOL. 2 7TWO 42,000 8,000 21,000 4,000 6,000 2,000
216 M-DANNY DECKCHAIR 7TWO 41,000 9,000 21,000 4,000 3,000 4,000
237 HEROES 7TWO 35,000 8,000 19,000 1,000 6,000 1,000
252 THE BIG BANG THEORY GO! 32,000 6,000 9,000 6,000 5,000 6,000
261 SUPERHUMAN ABC2 31,000 8,000 8,000 8,000 2,000 5,000
275 FIFTH GEAR 7TWO 29,000 8,000 10,000 7,000 3,000 1,000
279 M-NOAH 7TWO 29,000 5,000 13,000 3,000 7,000 2,000
281 SAMANTHA WHO? 7TWO 29,000 11,000 2,000 10,000 4,000 2,000
282 REAPER 7TWO 29,000 3,000 19,000 1,000 6,000 0
285 STARGATE ATLANTIS 7TWO 28,000 7,000 8,000 6,000 4,000 3,000
289 THE GRAHAM NORTON SHOW ABC2 28,000 7,000 15,000 1,000 3,000 1,000
(OzTAM mainland capitals)

What Australia watched, Saturday
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 SEVEN NEWS - SAT Seven 1,086,000 255,000 295,000 249,000 118,000 168,000
2 ABC NEWS-SA ABC1 989,000 289,000 301,000 161,000 101,000 138,000
3 NINE NEWS SATURDAY Nine 915,000 248,000 279,000 177,000 125,000 86,000
4 THE BILL ABC1 850,000 243,000 250,000 141,000 95,000 121,000
5 ABC NEWS UP-DATE ABC1 835,000 251,000 238,000 132,000 96,000 117,000
6 HOPE SPRINGS ABC1 827,000 233,000 238,000 157,000 95,000 104,000
7 AUSTRALIA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS Nine 812,000 203,000 236,000 177,000 122,000 74,000
8 TAGGART ABC1 794,000 203,000 237,000 127,000 117,000 110,000
9 M-PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST Seven 723,000 220,000 239,000 112,000 77,000 75,000
10 GARDENING AUSTRALIA ABC1 663,000 183,000 203,000 123,000 76,000 78,000
11 M-ROBOTS Seven 614,000 191,000 240,000 113,000 71,000
12 BIPOLAR EXPRESS -RPT Nine 573,000 183,000 199,000 71,000 57,000 63,000
14 SAHARA RPT Ten 522,000 98,000 145,000 141,000 54,000 84,000
15 LIAR, LIAR RPT Ten 425,000 101,000 154,000 66,000 45,000 59,000
17 MUSIC & LYRICS -RPT Nine 355,000 124,000 148,000 44,000 39,000
18 A GOOD MURDER RPT ABC1 341,000 95,000 111,000 46,000 42,000 47,000
22 TOP GEAR SBS ONE 289,000 63,000 89,000 51,000 41,000 45,000
23 IRON CHEF SBS ONE 274,000 77,000 97,000 29,000 22,000 50,000
27 ROCKWIZ SBS ONE 235,000 79,000 70,000 26,000 22,000 39,000
(OzTAM preliminary estimates, mainland capitals)

What Australia watched, Friday
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS Seven 1,314,000 413,000 336,000 257,000 128,000 180,000
2 MIDSOMER MURDERS ABC1 1,273,000 384,000 351,000 200,000 164,000 174,000
3 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,238,000 336,000 353,000 219,000 148,000 181,000
4 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,086,000 301,000 273,000 219,000 131,000 163,000
5 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 991,000 238,000 330,000 226,000 84,000 114,000
6 TWO AND A HALF MEN -FRI EP 2 Nine 975,000 212,000 331,000 249,000 72,000 112,000
7 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 959,000 228,000 342,000 199,000 105,000 86,000
8 HOME AND AWAY Seven 954,000 267,000 260,000 204,000 107,000 116,000
9 NINE NEWS Nine 935,000 251,000 311,000 175,000 111,000 88,000
13 HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX -RPT Nine 791,000 233,000 282,000 137,000 75,000 64,000
16 SCHOOL OF ROCK RPT Ten 634,000 212,000 197,000 108,000 50,000 67,000
36 TOP GEAR SBS ONE 283,000 84,000 75,000 62,000 23,000 40,000
88 JUNKYARD WARS ABC2 118,000 18,000 39,000 24,000 21,000 16,000
104 SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS GO! 93,000 18,000 18,000 22,000 14,000 21,000
114 TORCHWOOD ABC2 76,000 10,000 18,000 19,000 11,000 19,000
126 THE F WORD 7TWO 66,000 15,000 24,000 6,000 7,000 13,000
168 GOOD GAME ABC1 39,000 13,000 12,000 8,000 3,000 3,000

What Australia watched, Thursday
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,194,000 287,000 300,000 245,000 165,000 197,000
2 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,156,000 279,000 312,000 255,000 136,000 174,000
3 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 1,073,000 289,000 323,000 226,000 96,000 138,000
4 GETAWAY Nine 1,069,000 257,000 340,000 245,000 85,000 142,000
5 CSI: MIAMI Nine 1,012,000 263,000 309,000 220,000 107,000 113,000
6 NINE NEWS Nine 1,008,000 303,000 317,000 179,000 116,000 93,000
7 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 1,000,000 282,000 347,000 193,000 84,000 94,000
8 BEAUTY AND THE GEEK AUSTRALIA Seven 993,000 299,000 289,000 185,000 88,000 131,000
9 HOME AND AWAY Seven 941,000 243,000 255,000 185,000 122,000 136,000
10 CSI: NY Nine 937,000 214,000 322,000 209,000 103,000 89,000
11 ABC NEWS ABC1 917,000 269,000 271,000 156,000 89,000 132,000
12 GLEE Ten 909,000 236,000 239,000 194,000 98,000 143,000
13 CSI Nine 844,000 184,000 284,000 192,000 101,000 83,000
14 RUSH Ten 830,000 240,000 259,000 130,000 91,000 110,000
15 GHOST WHISPERER Seven 766,000 242,000 194,000 147,000 83,000 100,000
16 THE AMAZING RACE 15 Seven 756,000 210,000 245,000 135,000 65,000 102,000
21 THE 7PM PROJECT Ten 625,000 185,000 153,000 128,000 68,000 90,000
22 ADDICTED TO MONEY ABC1 616,000 203,000 153,000 98,000 54,000 108,000
88 STARGATE ATLANTIS 7TWO 124,000 38,000 33,000 26,000 10,000 16,000
96 FIFTH GEAR 7TWO 106,000 19,000 41,000 24,000 16,000 5,000
100 ADBC SBS ONE 105,000 45,000 22,000 19,000 5,000 13,000
101 SPICKS AND SPECKS ABC2 104,000 31,000 33,000 17,000 7,000 15,000
109 MR BEAN WITH ROWAN ATKINSON ABC2 83,000 23,000 20,000 3,000 20,000 17,000
116 THE GRAHAM NORTON SHOW ABC2 78,000 24,000 33,000 3,000 8,000 11,000
121 UFC WIRED ONE 73,000 11,000 26,000 18,000 12,000 5,000
124 IF AWARDS SBS ONE 71,000 19,000 31,000 10,000 8,000 3,000
147 MOONLIGHT GO! 57,000 23,000 12,000 7,000 7,000 8,000
164 SPORTS TONIGHT ONE 46,000 7,000 18,000 5,000 13,000 3,000

What Australia watched, Wednesday
1 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,343,000 306,000 374,000 287,000 152,000 224,000
2 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,325,000 311,000 365,000 268,000 165,000 216,000
3 BORDER SECURITY (R) Seven 1,271,000 351,000 325,000 263,000 141,000 190,000
4 MEDICAL EMERGENCY Seven 1,153,000 300,000 327,000 220,000 129,000 177,000
5 SPICKS AND SPECKS ABC1 1,135,000 382,000 299,000 224,000 104,000 127,000
6 TWO AND A HALF MEN -WED Nine 1,100,000 269,000 383,000 206,000 98,000 145,000
7 HOME AND AWAY Seven 1,090,000 294,000 305,000 201,000 127,000 162,000
8 CELEBRITY MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA Ten 1,064,000 384,000 292,000 167,000 102,000 119,000
9 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 1,044,000 235,000 331,000 238,000 103,000 136,000
10 CITY HOMICIDE-WED Seven 1,021,000 283,000 330,000 141,000 109,000 158,000
11 NINE NEWS Nine 1,017,000 273,000 341,000 193,000 116,000 94,000
12 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 1,003,000 265,000 349,000 205,000 100,000 83,000
13 NCIS: LOS ANGELES Ten 1,003,000 309,000 248,000 184,000 112,000 149,000
16 WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU THIS SUMMER Nine 833,000 227,000 277,000 159,000 74,000 96,000
25 HUNGRY BEAST ABC1 641,000 224,000 175,000 127,000 58,000 57,000
29 JOHN SAFRAN'S RACE RELATIONS ABC1 492,000 167,000 132,000 94,000 47,000 53,000
32 MY NAME IS EARL Seven 420,000 115,000 157,000 61,000 43,000 43,000
56 INSPECTOR REX RPT SBS ONE 215,000 54,000 72,000 36,000 18,000 35,000
86 HEROES 7TWO 123,000 24,000 69,000 9,000 12,000 8,000

The ratings race, updated 10 am Wednesday
Nine's last minute attempt to use nostalgic nationalism to claw back an audience does not seem to have worked. For the week so far, the prime time audience shares stand at: SBS2 0.4 per cent; ONE 0.9; ABC2 1.2; 7TWO 2.3; GO 3.1; SBS1 5.0; ABC1 13.0; Ten 19.9; Nine 24.6; Seven 29.8.

What Australia watched, Tuesday
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 PACKED TO THE RAFTERS Seven 1,804,000 524,000 562,000 316,000 197,000 205,000
2 NCIS Ten 1,309,000 378,000 385,000 225,000 131,000 190,000
3 RSPCA ANIMAL RESCUE Seven 1,285,000 345,000 360,000 257,000 148,000 176,000
4 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,262,000 327,000 326,000 273,000 145,000 190,000
5 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,217,000 289,000 314,000 281,000 139,000 194,000
6 LAST CHANCE SURGERY Seven 1,184,000 303,000 342,000 234,000 144,000 162,000
7 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 1,137,000 275,000 366,000 251,000 85,000 161,000
8 20 TO 1 -TUE Nine 1,109,000 313,000 349,000 196,000 90,000 162,000
9 LIE TO ME Ten 1,068,000 274,000 373,000 161,000 117,000 144,000
10 NINE NEWS Nine 1,042,000 296,000 311,000 195,000 113,000 127,000
15 PRIVATE PRACTICE-TUE Seven 877,000 275,000 276,000 125,000 94,000 107,000
17 THE VERY BEST OF THE PAUL HOGAN SHOW - PART 2 Nine 769,000 280,000 244,000 97,000 59,000 89,000
21 AUSSIE LADETTE TO LADY -EP1 Nine 676,000 225,000 232,000 72,000 62,000 84,000
23 JAIL BIRDS ABC1 632,000 217,000 172,000 94,000 59,000 90,000
39 SEXIEST CELEBRITY BODY PARTS Seven 303,000 91,000 111,000 32,000 36,000 33,000
59 FIFI AND THE FLOWERTOTS ABC1 180,000 70,000 69,000 13,000 12,000 17,000
72 EAST WEST 101 SBS ONE 138,000 74,000 27,000 14,000 15,000 9,000
84 UGLY BETTY 7TWO 110,000 38,000 22,000 20,000 5,000 24,000
94 SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS GO! 89,000 19,000 25,000 15,000 11,000 19,000
117 THE WIRE ABC2 60,000 23,000 18,000 8,000 6,000 6,000

What Australia watched, Monday, including Good Game for Arthur
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 TWO AND A HALF MEN -MON Nine 1,462,000 377,000 454,000 312,000 125,000 194,000
2 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,365,000 331,000 349,000 310,000 171,000 205,000
3 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,248,000 281,000 326,000 304,000 150,000 188,000
4 THE BIG BANG THEORY Nine 1,239,000 331,000 377,000 266,000 100,000 165,000
5 THE MENTALIST Nine 1,210,000 326,000 408,000 232,000 103,000 141,000
6 HIGHWAY PATROL Seven 1,209,000 308,000 390,000 217,000 131,000 163,000
7 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 1,168,000 299,000 361,000 263,000 110,000 136,000
8 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 1,114,000 301,000 373,000 222,000 112,000 106,000
9 CRIMINAL MINDS-MON Seven 1,110,000 275,000 356,000 166,000 142,000 171,000
10 DESTROYED IN SECONDS Seven 1,102,000 319,000 288,000 192,000 138,000 165,000
13 FLASHFORWARD Seven 1,079,000 292,000 287,000 190,000 130,000 180,000
14 ELDERS WITH ANDREW DENTON ABC1 968,000 305,000 267,000 190,000 96,000 110,000
17 THE APPRENTICE AUSTRALIA -EP1 Nine 793,000 237,000 262,000 120,000 78,000 97,000
22 TOP GEAR WINTER OLYMPICS SPECIAL SBS ONE 680,000 190,000 177,000 155,000 76,000 81,000
25 JAMIE'S AMERICAN ROAD TRIP Ten 645,000 186,000 167,000 136,000 78,000 78,000
35 NURSE JACKIE MON Ten 394,000 125,000 102,000 75,000 56,000 35,000
77 ADVENTURES OF BOTTLE TOP BILL AND HIS BEST FRIEND ABC1 137,000 64,000 39,000 14,000 7,000 13,000
78 BERT AND ERNIE'S GREAT ADVENTURES ABC1 135,000 64,000 37,000 15,000 8,000 11,000
79 THE ELLEN DEGENERES SHOW Nine 133,000 45,000 33,000 30,000 9,000 15,000
89 DOCTOR WHO ABC2 113,000 21,000 29,000 37,000 8,000 19,000
158 GOOD GAME ABC2 45,000 9,000 12,000 12,000 4,000 7,000

What Australia watched, Sunday
Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth
1 THE FORCE Seven 1,580,000 415,000 430,000 326,000 166,000 243,000
2 BORDER SECURITY Seven 1,476,000 374,000 422,000 325,000 155,000 200,000
3 BONES Seven 1,423,000 367,000 413,000 274,000 177,000 192,000
4 SUNDAY NIGHT Seven 1,298,000 320,000 371,000 305,000 145,000 156,000
5 SEVEN NEWS - SUN Seven 1,293,000 338,000 328,000 300,000 163,000 163,000
6 NINE NEWS SUNDAY Nine 1,217,000 297,000 429,000 206,000 171,000 114,000
7 60 MINUTES Nine 1,078,000 331,000 332,000 170,000 115,000 130,000
8 CASTLE Seven 997,000 228,000 348,000 150,000 137,000 134,000
9 20 TO 1 -SUN Nine 930,000 258,000 277,000 168,000 118,000 109,000
10 AUSTRALIAN IDOL Ten 924,000 310,000 247,000 183,000 87,000 97,000
12 ROVE Ten 760,000 214,000 258,000 119,000 81,000 88,000
13 AUSTRALIAN MASTERS GOLF Nine 713,000 175,000 293,000 116,000 77,000 52,000
14 MISS AUSTEN REGRETS ABC1 637,000 204,000 190,000 92,000 74,000 78,000
17 DARWIN'S BRAVE NEW WORLD ABC1 590,000 209,000 146,000 107,000 51,000 77,000
19 FALSE WITNESS Nine 529,000 153,000 167,000 99,000 51,000 59,000
31 WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? SBS ONE 276,000 76,000 88,000 52,000 27,000 34,000
34 WIPEOUT GO! 229,000 41,000 63,000 57,000 36,000 32,000
41 FOUR NATIONS RUGBY LEAGUE 2009 Nine 196,000 91,000 18,000 78,000 5,000 4,000
48 THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS GO! 159,000 33,000 62,000 32,000 18,000 14,000
52 THE BIG BANG THEORY GO! 150,000 29,000 45,000 31,000 25,000 21,000
53 M-KILL BILL: VOL. 2 7TWO 147,000 30,000 67,000 18,000 14,000 18,000
56 M-BIG 7TWO 143,000 12,000 57,000 21,000 16,000 36,000
77 M-DANNY DECKCHAIR 7TWO 105,000 26,000 43,000 12,000 10,000 13,000
78 THE MAGIC OF AUDREY ABC2 105,000 19,000 20,000 30,000 19,000 18,000

David Dale is the author of The Little Book of Australia -- A snapshot of who we are (Allen and Unwin). For daily updates on Australian attitudes, bookmark blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare.

COMMENTS

Wow, how on earth is Peter Helliar going to laugh at his own jokes (before telling them) now? I did watch Rove last night because I had suspected it was his last hoorah, it wasn't difficult to see coming.
Read quite an interesting observation somewhere: Rove came in when HHiS went out, and now that HHiS is returning (?) Rove makes his exit.

by Bereft Skerrick on November 16, 2009 at 09:20 AM

It's a shame that Rove sprung his departure on audiences like that. He could have had a massive audience for his final episode if it had been promoted that way. Australian Idol did him no favours and Ten certainly should not bring that lame duck back again next year.
Castle at 9.30pm beats Idol and gets close to a million. Bones is absolutely smashing the opposition now and streaking ahead in the ratings as the biggest import. Sunday Night and the factuals are proving to be consistent winners now.
False Witness was not that great on UK TV so I was really surprised that Nine picked it up for prime time. Does this show give them a few more Aussie drama points, even though it was produced by pay tv and shown there first? It really annoys me when they promote these shows as 'Australian Premiere' when it's been on pay tv before.

by J Bar on November 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM

If only Rove got an interview with Tiger Woods.

by canoli on November 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM

'Rove' WAS 'Hey Hey it's Crapperday' which was a ripoff of American Variety Shows but catering to children and animals. Watch 'The Jay Leno Show' on 7TWO tonight and see how eerily similar it is to HHiS. Is there nothing new in Variety? Rove was always too safe. Time for Ten to reward Shaun Micallef for his slightly constricted work with 'Talkin' 'Bout etc' and give him his own Talk Show / Variety Show with free reign and real promotion and some long term committment to let it gain an audience. If they start now and start first thing next year, Micallef could easily grind HHiS into the ground before they get any (more) ideas. They're due for another one sometime around mid March 2011.
JBar, should that have read "False Witness was not that great on UK TV so I was NOT really surprised that Nine picked it up for prime time"? Nine always picks the wrong one. Wrong movies, wrong series, wrong timing. They're very predictable. If they have a good movie it's on at 12:45am after two crappy ones.

Tribal Mind wonders Free reign or free rein? One is a metaphor about the divine right of kings, the other a horseriding metaphor.

by darren on November 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I like the concept of Rove (the TV show). And I think Australians also like the concept but it appears Rove himself is the ratings problem although I am not sure why...I like the guy.

by Irish on November 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Yes, "free rein" would seem more appropriate. Although, considering 'Good Weekend' magazine got away with saying "Sneak Peak" on their front cover on Saturday, maybe "free rain" is also okay?
Still gotta figure out what I meant when I wrote "start now and start first thing next year"......?? Need more caffeine.
Watched the 3rd season of '30 Rock' on the weekend. It's slipped a little but still good. Seven should rerun the entire series at 7:00 weeknights over summer and then maybe someone will watch it next year. Yeah, right.

by darren on November 17, 2009 at 05:54 AM

Sorry to see Rove go though I was never really a fan. Mainly because I can't stand Peter Hellier who was not funny. Ever. But Rove was entertaining in the early days. Ten did it no favours by sticking it on Sunday nights especially this year as Idol has dragged it down.
Still it's always a shame when an Aussie show dies. And Rove always seemed like a good guy.

by em on November 17, 2009 at 07:45 AM

Does anyone know if Weeds was or wasn't on Go! on Sunday? I recorded the replay on Monday mornings at 3.30am, but I went to the PVR last night to be greeted by an hour of the Flintstones. Did Weeds show in the 10.30pm timeslot?! Does anyone know what's going on!?!
OK, I just did that thing where you ask a question before doing some checking yourself. Channel Go! website has the following message: "This Sunday, catch a movie double from 8.30pm with Matrix Revolutions and Mars Attacks. Don't fret, all you South Park, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Weeds fans; they will all return November 29th."

by Wendell on November 17, 2009 at 09:48 AM

Gee, I must be leading a very sheltered life out here in the sticks. Bert and Ernie gay? Yeah, ok, so they share a bedroom but they have single beds and as everyone in TV land that means no sex.

An article in That Other Paper is insinuating that Rove may be aiming for a show in USA. I can see that working...

Methinks you could be dangerous if you drank any more caffeine Darren.

by Shoopie on November 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I've always thought Bert's the one who's gay and he just hangs around Ernie who's more like a five year old imprisoned in the body of a full-grown man...puppet,...in the vain hope that one day Ernie will stop playing with his Rubber Ducky in the bath and notice Bert's lustful glances. The creators of 'Sesame Street' have kept that URST going for decades now.
Bottle Top Bill's best friend is a horse called Corky, so....that's called something else.
Now, what about Big Ted and Little Ted?

Tribal Mind adds: B1 and B2?

by darren on November 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM

I don't know and I don't care about Bert and Ernie being gay or not, I just care that they were re-enacting Don Quixote yesterday morning. Yay for 17th century Spanish literature!
And Bottle Top Bill's best friend (Corky) is a girl. There may be URST happening, but it'd be heterosexual, and I'm sure no one cares about that. (Won't somebody think of the children?)
Are there any lesbian role models for the pre-schoolers? (Apart from PlaySchool reading out the book where someone had Two Mummies.) Maybe Fifi and the Flowertots has some hidden meanings behind the ghastliness.
Went out to the movies last night, to a preview of "The Invention of Lying" - not bad, a few jokes fell flat but the good jokes were good, and there were squillions of famous faces in small roles (including our favourite Tina Fey), and the message was a good one.

by tqd on November 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM

I thought that Bert was more of a pigeon fancier than an Ernie fancier. More along the lines of Bottle Top Bill I guess.

by Bereft Skerrick on November 17, 2009 at 01:59 PM

Bill & Ben The Flowerpot Men????
You would have to think there's plenty of issues there.

by PJ453 on November 17, 2009 at 02:03 PM

How did Good Game go last night? It was the new combination's best episode so far with all but one review (Ratchet & Clank) being quite good.

Tribal Mind replies: In the chart now. I must remark on the paradox: seemingly a lot of people play games, but a lot of people are not prepared to take time off from playing their games to watch a show devoted to them.

by arthur on November 17, 2009 at 02:41 PM

Bert and Ernie - No way, no gay...
B1 and B2 - Possbily bi - some of the teddy bears are girls, some boys.

by Tim on November 17, 2009 at 02:48 PM

Corky was Mickey Braddock who segued into Mickey Dollenz. Big Bird is the One Who Is Gay... he/she was once operated by a guy called Carol. But of course, Carol was also a damn fine script writer married to Maggie Smith. Sorry to hear about Ed Woodward. Damn fine talent. Damn.

by d@gp on November 17, 2009 at 03:53 PM

What about Morecambe and Wise and their famous 'in bed' skits??? Big Bird and Mr Snuffleupagus??
Never really watched Rove as he didn't appear on our screens until we got the Digital TDT (Ten/Seven combination) a few years ago. If I miss the start of something I find it hard to catch up.

Tribal MInd observes: Laurel and Hardy in bed together? Abbott and Costello in bed together? The Three Stooges in bed together? And the little one said - roll over, roll over. Ahh, things were different then.

by 2paw on November 17, 2009 at 04:54 PM

The passing of Edward Woodward meant that the Wicker Man got a mention around the press. Which flashes me right back and the nightmares start again!

Tribal Mind remarks: For me, it's visions of Britt Eklund in the room next door.

by Wendell on November 17, 2009 at 06:21 PM

Bill & Ben, those flowerpot men,were way ahead of the rest of the world when it came to 'w-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-d'...

by D@GP on November 17, 2009 at 06:25 PM

What about Zorro and Sgt Garcia? My DVD's of Disney's Zorro seasons 1 & 2 arrived today... brilliant transfer. But I could never understand the theme... "Zorro......... the toff of camembrai cheese"... (TM, we're still waiting the Spell Check to be added to these pages...

by Zed with a Zee on November 17, 2009 at 06:47 PM

The question about Bert and Ernie being gay seemed like a no-brainer until I realised you were not talking about Bert Newton and Ernie Sigley ; with the puppets it's a little harder to work out.
As for comedy teams in bed, the Threesome Stooges did it for me, but they did wear suits under their nightshirts.
And I remember Shintaro and Tombei sharing a room at a Japanese inn -- the walls were paper-thin ; their sexuality was not called into question, although Shintaro wore a striking pony-tail and a divinely-coloured silk dressing gown.

by Professor Rosseforp on November 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM

B1 and B2 are as fruity as they come (someone had to say it).
I saw a t-shirt once depicting Bert and Ernie... ahem...goin' at it which I'm sure resulted in many awkward parent / child converstaions ("Mummy what is Bert DOING to Ernie?"......"Oh, er, um, they're playing horsie rides......Oh look over there! There's a dog!"......"But why aren't they wearing any....." ...."Who wants an ICECREAM?"....).
In the absence of anything to talk about on tellie (gotta love the non-ratings period), anyone seen 'Synechdoche, New York' (on DVD now) yet and what'd yer think ovit?
Tqd (or anyone), have you finished reading 'A Fraction of The Whole' yet and what'd yer think ovit?
I trust, tqd, that's not Fifi Box you're referring to. 'Sunrise' is the Iran of Morning Television.

by darren on November 18, 2009 at 05:59 AM

I always thought Big Bird was quite camp. Bert & Ernie definitely had something going on. Was always a big fan of Ernie but never liked Bert as a child. May be it was the eyebrow?

by Nic on November 18, 2009 at 07:51 AM

To those that are watching "True Blood" on Foxtel, that series is just getting better and better. It makes Twillight look like Play School. But then , it is! Also, last night Foxtel showed previews of the new season of Dexter. Looked great. At least I have something to watch over the long, hot , boring TV land that is summer.
As to Bert & Ernine, well, I always thought there was something a little suss about them. All that prancing around and singing about Rubber Duckys..............

by em on November 18, 2009 at 07:52 AM

One of the obvious ones is Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Since Freddie, Daphne and Thelma seem to have some weird triangle thing going on, Shaggy and Scooby seem obvious.
Especially now since I caught them on GO!11!11OMGWTF!111 this morning with their nano-technology infused Scooby Snacks.

by Bereft Skerrick on November 18, 2009 at 08:47 AM

Hi Em,

Not only Dexter, but season 3 of Satisfaction but also the new series Hung, about a guy who is....well... with Thomas Jane

by Glory Days on November 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Just wondering what Go! and 7two will show over the non-ratings period, will they downgrade their content, or could their ratings exceed their parent channels ?.

by sygul on November 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM

The dominant topic, gay characters, what about NCIS Los Angeles' two main male characters, Special Agent G Callen and Special Agent Dominic Vaile, two blokes who merrily skip along and hold hands, totally inseparable throughout each show, the Callen character even knocked back a certainty in last week's show using an excuse often used by gays who haven't come out of the closet (the old "I don't date woman I work with").
I don't know if it is intentional, but that show couldn't be more camp if it tried.

by Zjonn on November 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Only 11 days until the start of the silly season? I think it's kicked off early at Chez Tribal Mind.
And on TV. Seriously, is there anything really worth watching at the moment?
darren, haven't even started "A Fraction of the Whole". Got persuaded into "Shantaram" first, and at 936 pages, I might be some time.
And "Fifi and the Flowertots" has nothing to do with Fifi Box. Fifi (& Flowertots) are the invention of The Man Who Invented Bob The Builder. He decided that Bob The Builder didn't adequately capture the girl's market, so set out to create a series targetting young girls. So, lots about dresses, dancing, tea parties.
I loathe it with an unholy passion.
I have Serious Issues with men who create TV series (and books I'm sure, but I'm yet to run across them) that target the "girl's" market. They seem to think that just adding in frou frou, roses and giggling that girls will fall for it. Well, NOT IN MY HOUSE, BUSTERS.
To wit: Dorothy the Dinosaur. The above mentioned Fifi. And, the completely unneccessary addition of Daisy (a total girly-girl if ever there was one) to Wow-Wow Wubbzy, which already had a perfectly fine female role model in Widget, a bunny-like creature who wore pink and liked to dance, but was also an inventor and engineer.
It is mightily peeving me off.

by tqd on November 18, 2009 at 01:42 PM

tqd: it was probably a man who got rid of Mayor McCheese and Constable Cheeseburger (can't quite remember his name) and gave us that bloody ridiculous Birdie character at McD's. None of the MCD's characters were female (although WTF is Grimace) so some boofhead politically corrected the situation.
Now Ronald McDonald and Hamburglarm there's another couple of characters with an interesting relationship.

by Bereft Skerrick on November 18, 2009 at 05:06 PM

sygul, I'm hoping GO! and 7two will have something worth watching during the silly season. ONE HD has some sports that are watchable, like Nascar and Gridiron.

by bobmar28 on November 19, 2009 at 05:38 AM

Bereft Skerrick: speaking of Fifi Box, have you closed your eyes and listened to her -- it's Kim from Kath and Kim speaking. How did she ever get a job that involved using her voice in public -- it could strip paint off a wall.
She may be a nice person, but please, use the Christmas break to get some speech improvement going, and work on losing the huskiness or she'll lose her voice altogether.
TQD -- good comments re early media brainwashing of the fairer sex.

by Professor Rosseforp on November 19, 2009 at 05:50 AM

Tqd, books that target girls? Not heard of a little thing called 'Twilight (squeeeeel!!!)? Although created by a woman....
Back to gayness, is that a shark fin I see in the water? No, it's just Claire the Cheerleader and Gracie from 'The Nanny' kissing on 'Heroes'. The Fonze is strapping on his skies.
Nonetheless, it could be argued that all stories involving Superheroes are ostensibly about being Gay. You know: Us and Them, Not Fitting In, Having A Secret, Wearing Lycra, Accepting Your Differences, etc etc. Heroes, Superman, Spiderman, Wonderwoman, The X Men, could all be subtitled: Adventures in a Metaphor. And not a very subtle one.

by darren on November 19, 2009 at 05:59 AM

I agree, Darren. Spiderman in particular is rather gay. In Spiderman 3 you have Toby McGuire all dressed in leather supposedly being "bad" going to some bar. He looked like he was about to join the Village People.

And a comment on female role models. I don't really think Bella from Twillight is much of a role model for young girls. All that moping around over some dead guy.
Then willing to die so she can be with him forever. I mean really, what a lot of rubbish. Shouldn't the fiction young girls read have better role models? Stronger heroines that can stand up for themselves without fawning over some guy? Some things never change and I thought we were in the 21st century. Sorry, my rant for the week. I am just completely over this whole Twillight thing. Ughh!

by em on November 19, 2009 at 08:51 AM

How about Tinky Winky from the Teletubbies? He is a pretty purple and he had a lovely handbag...

Speaking of jumping the shark with gayness, Gossip Girl (SPOILER WARNING)has fallen victim to the same disease - apparently parents groups in the US tried to stop an episode going to air because of a threesome - two girls and a boy...SPOILER WARNING Dan, his bestie whose name has slipped my mind (Vanessa?) and the new character played by Hilary Duff.

Now, I am missing tv in all its forms at the moment thanks to my psychotic School Certificate marking schedule (16 hour days for two weeks makes Ms Beckala a little delirious from tiredness!) so I'm hoping someone can answer a question for me. I caught the very end of Safran where he was interviewing the Holocaust skeptic (again, missing the details as I didn't see most of the show, just the last two minutes) - did that guy know before the interview that Safran is Jewish? Wonder if he is besties with Mel Gibson's dad and Mel himself...? Annoyed that I missed that one, sounded interesting. And my poor recording devices are almost at capacity, so I can't record much anymore!!!

tqd, I spend my LIFE having to put up with books aimed at girls - Babysitters Club, Sweet Valley High, Princess Diaries (OH HOW I LOATHE THAT SERIES AND ITS AUTHOR!! Only redeeming feature is that it unleashed Anne Hathaway on the world, I do like her!), as well as Twilight. With the exception of Twilight, all are based around ooh, let's try wearing mascara for the first time, and I wonder if that hottie on the soccer team fancies me and I can't wait to buy a dress for prom! I'm actually glad Twilight discourages that - the main character has no interest in clothing or makeup, which I wish my year 9 girls would follow - every morning I have to bring makeup remover to class to get them looking like schoolchildren rather than 20 year old women trying to pick up at a nightclub! As for mufti days - dear god!! I'm hoping they follow Bella down the route of jeans and t-shirts!!

by Beckala on November 19, 2009 at 09:08 AM

Just start catching up on tv / dvd box sets and watching the big-budget movies come non-ratings period.

by arthur on November 19, 2009 at 09:18 AM

Beckala - I don't think you can put David Irving into the Holocaust "skeptic" camp. He is right down at the back of the bus when it comes to "deneying" as a matter of fact I don't think there is anybody behind him. As for the sketch, it looked just tooooo real to be real, if that makes sense. ie Jew kills Jew hater .....does that make my a "sceptic" or a "deneyer" ??? The show overall was excellent, his Elephant Man sketch was well put together & informative. Watched last weeks Hungry Beast & it is getting better, definitely informative as well as humerous.

by PJ453 on November 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Tut tut TM your hero(es) worship is showing - next pic will be Lauren Graham!
Missed most TV offerings last evening as went to see Eric Bana's butt in Time Traveller's wife - not bad, butt very good - my shallow moment.
A good friend went to a double screening of Twilight and new Moon starting at 9.30 pm - she said average age was about 30 but squeals and gasps when barechested actors appeared - sad... very very sad.
I want me a t shirt saying "Bella fell for Edward and Buffy staked Edward"

by Cathy on November 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM

It was actually more the girly books/shows/etc created by "blokes who have no idea what women/girls want" that peeve me off. Created by women, well, then I just shake my head sadly and think "another one lost to the brainwashing".
A friend of mine is a teacher librarian, and had some parents request that she remove a Mary-Kate and Ashley (is that right? the two terrified-deer-caught-in-headlight twins?) book from the library. She thought she'd better give it the benefit of the doubt and read it first, and I've never seen her so angry before. I think it was "will the boys like us if we wear makeup" theme that made her lose it.
Beckala, I'm with you with the exhaustion. Actually managed an early night last night, but was woken up several times. I'm a complete zombie (braaaaaains). At least I have a four day weekend this weekend. If the kids are nice, they may even let me sleep on the sofa for a while, while they destroy the house. Small price to pay.

by tqd on November 19, 2009 at 02:24 PM

Cathy, hush hush. Don't you know this forum is really just an offshoot of FHM. If you don't like the regularly rotated pics of Ms Larter, Ms Graham, Evangeline Lily, the Rafterbabes, the Terminatorchicks, Saint Sonia Kruger and Jennifer Phworkins, maybe you should go find another blog.

Tribal Miond remarks: Just for that, I'm putting vince colosimo up tomorrow.

by Wendell on November 19, 2009 at 04:55 PM

I was never a Buffy fan but I have totally much respect for the way she dealt with (most) vampires. At least when she was fawning over Angel or Spike they were REAL MEN. BTW there's something a little wrong about a 117 year old vampire fawning over a teenage girl.

Frick. Peter Helliar found its way onto 7PM. Make the bad man stop!

by Bereft Skerrick on November 19, 2009 at 06:17 PM

That school library just got the wrong book by Marykateandashleyolsen. They meant to get the intelligent well written one but accidentally got the shallow pointless drivel they took to writing in their later years. You know, after they won the Nobel.
I'm hoping that on Sunday, Australia will watch 'Samson and Delilah' on the ABC and abandon 'Aus Idol' to it's destiny.
It's my early Christmas Wish.
I think we'll awake on Monday with an AusIdol called Stan and a PM called Kev. And life will continue as if nothing happened at all....

by darren on November 20, 2009 at 06:03 AM

As usual, Nine pulled ER off air last night to air some CSI "SPECIAL EVENT". Didn't watch it as I haven't seen any CSI in a couple of years but I was also mightily peeved that ER wasn't on. So will it be on next week? Who knows. I will have to learn to download as I am so very sick of this.
Thanks, Darren for reminding me about "Samson & Delilah" on Sunday. Have really wanted to see that movie.
Hope Idol goes the way of the dinosaurs and becomes extinct. Hope the GF gets the lowest figures ever.
Really didn't watch much TV last night. This heat is getting to me and I fell asleep on the lounge , woke up and staggered off to bed. This morning I am at work but so tired. I hate heat!

by em on November 20, 2009 at 07:37 AM

What were we watching on Thursday night? In our house it was Defying Gravity on the Hard drive, then CHUCK on fox8. Then Amazing Race on FTV.
Did see some more of Ausssie Geeks and it is still cringe worthy when compared to the American version. The host is so wooden.

by ned on November 20, 2009 at 09:36 AM

Cathy there is a T-shirt that was not to long ago available at Borders -"and then Buffy staked Edward. The End."- but i personally don't think that she would've bothered.
Is ER going to be back next thursday and is 111 on foxtel not allowed to show episodes that nine hasn't?

by Jac on November 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Watering TM is what I was doing (lucky we've got recycled water) but watched Addicted to Money & if that doesn't scare the bejeesus out of goverments nothing will!!
Couldn't agree more darren - C'MON AUSTRALIA watch Samson & Delilah on Sunday night....you know you want to do it. Winning the timeslot would be super.
Also, I see that Queen Nigella is on Sat at 6pm.......mmmmmmm whisked peaks with cherries on top.

by PJ453 on November 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM

ned: seems they have metrosexualised young Bernard Curry. As for the geeks, I know geeks. I've met geeks. I'm married to a geek. I'm a geekette. Corin is not a geek. He's a plant.

by Bereft Skerrick on November 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Thursday nights I shop 'til I drop.

by Antigoni on November 20, 2009 at 03:10 PM

If anyone from Ch7 is out there, I just want to say thanks for showing Amazing Race, even if the ratings aren't amazing. It is my Friday 'water cooler' conversation with friends, and definitely the highlight of my viewing week. Please dig up some more series for over our summer...

by Jill on November 20, 2009 at 03:37 PM

Do we want to take bets on Sunday night's viewing? I'm guessing JUST over a million for the Idol finale - but I'm being optimistic - I watched most of the series - yes, i'm a glutton for punishment!! - but I couldn't give a crap what happens. Only reason I care is that itaffects a friend of mine - he's the stage manager for Bell Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrew, and they need to bump out Saturday night and not Sunday. But it's not looking good - their most prominent guest (Jordin Sparks) has cancelled... And nobody seems to care, including Channel Teen, who are yet to confirm a series for next year - I think the writing is one the wall - think back to Big Brother - they signed off with "Big Brother will be back one day" - no sign of it yet (thank god, the thought of fathead idiiot Vile makes me nauseous), so I"m wondering if they'll do the same with AI...
On Thursday night - I was School Certificate marking. Sigh. But I did get Mr Beckala to record Glee for me (and he bought me the soundtrack for me too, god love him - can't have been fun picking that one up from JB HiFi for a blokey bloke!!) - Cathy, a copy of said soundtrack coming your way soon!! (and thanks for Powderfinger - sorry to others for personal message!!)
As I said, I"m SC marking til 9pm each night, so I didn't get to watch any tv this week, but Mr Beckala DID record Hungry Beast for me which I watched tonight - the 're-enactment' of the Australian soldier who fought in Afghanistan was absolutely mind-blowing, incredible, credible (ACA and TT, are you take note?), revolutionary - words can't express how much respect I had for that story. I have a friend whose fiance is serving over there at the moment. I also just showed a group of students Farenheit 9/11, so it was really fitting - i'm hoping to show the Hungry Beast interview to demonstrate the same issues. Love freaking the kids right out - having never seen any of it, and being too young for September 11 (which as a 30 year old, was kind of freaky to realise - I thought of myself as being fairly young during the WTC attacks, and I had a classroom of students who had no real memories of the events or any real knowledge of what had occurred).

Hot weather is psycho - left my marking at 9:30pm, and it was 34 degrees when I got to my car!!

PJ453, thanks for Safran info - will try to track that down online!!
Jill - my husband is giving the same thanks for the Amazing Race.

by Beckala on November 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Early, I know, but I would like to nominate Chris Bath for this year's 'Best Actress in a Guest Role' Logie. That line she's doing at the moment where she goes "I think we're all a bit sad to see [Ian Ross] leave, actually", should go in the one-liner Hall of Fame and she should be up there with Cate Blanchette as one of our finest dramatic actors. I almost believe that she's actually going to miss him and hasn't been waiting for ten years for the guy to get out. And those hilarious reminisences! Hahahaha, the moths! Hee hee. Roscoe, you're a card. And sometimes he smiles!!! Ohhhh, mercy. Good times.
It's like a tribute to a block of wood.
You get the feeling that the Opera House is a bit over the top for the current status of 'Aus Idol'. More appropriate would be a hired marquee in Dicko's backyard. A few sausages on the bbq, a few rounds of 'The Chicken Dance' and then a show of hands decides who wins and everyone wakes up hungover.....

by darren on November 21, 2009 at 06:04 AM

What time was Top Gear shown on SBS on Saturday night? It wasn't on my schedule, was it confused on the list with Mythbusters?
I notice that some people still miss Big Brother. I never watched it but there are fans out there and for those who want their fix, be it only on a weekly basis for half an hour, SBS has a show on Monday nights at 10:00 PM called Dead Set, a lovely little show, obviously based on fact, which will have Big Brother fans gagging for more!
If you can't fit it into your watching schedule (because so much good stuff is on at the moment....not) record it for later viewing, the kiddies and you will love it!

by Zjonn on November 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Bipolar Express? Not sure that's the correct name.
Since when did James Brayshaw host cricket? Was Eddie McEverywhere unavailable?

by Bereft Skerrick on November 22, 2009 at 06:42 PM

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