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WHO WE ARE: Talk is rich

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A column about Australia by David Dale, published in The Sun-Herald, 9/3/2008.
The readers have spoken. By a clear majority, they have given their ruling on who is Australia's greatest orator - the person responsible for the most significant speeches ever made on this continent. And in the process they've disposed of the myth that Australians are a people of few words, laconic bordering on inarticulate.

Last week this column published excerpts from six speeches often described as historical turning points, whether or not you agree with their sentiments. They were Arthur Phillip's warning to the new arrivals in 1788 ("a vigorous execution of the law -- whatever it may cost my feeling -- shall follow closely upon the heels of every offender"); Henry Parkes's call for federation in 1890 ("The crimson thread of kinship runs through us all"); Alfred Deakin's introduction of the White Australia Policy in 1901 ("It is not the bad qualities but the good qualities of these alien races that make them dangerous to us"); Paul Keating's Redfern speech in 1992 ("We brought the diseases. The alcohol. We committed the murders"); John Howard's Bali bombing memorial in 2002 ("The Australian spirit will remain strong and free and open and tolerant"); and Kevin Rudd's apology last month ("To the mothers and the fathers, the brothers and the sisters, for the breaking up of families and communities, we say sorry.") Click here to read that column.

kemal.jpg Readers responded by nominating alternative candidates for the title of Australia's most important speech. Some examples:

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, President of Turkey, remembering the Anzacs, 1934: "There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours ... You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land, they have become our sons as well."

Labor leader Arthur Calwell opposing Australia's entry into the Vietnam war in 1965: "It is not our desire, when servicemen are about to be sent to distant battlefields, and when war - cruel, costly and interminable - stares us in the face, that the nation should be divided. When the drums beat and the trumpets sound, the voice of reason and right can be heard in the land only with difficulty. But if we are to have the courage of our convictions, then we must do our best to make that voice heard." (Speech written by Graham Freudenberg)

Prime Minister John Curtin asking the American people for help, 1942: "This war may see the end of much that we have painfully and slowly built in our 150 years of existence. But even though all of it go, there will still be Australians fighting on Australian soil until the turning point be reached, and we will advance over blackened ruins, through blasted and fire-swept cities, across scorched plains, until we drive the enemy into the sea. I give you the pledge of my country. There will always be an Australian Government and there will always be an Australian people. We are too strong in our hearts; our spirit is too high; the justice of our cause throbs too deeply in our being for that high purpose to be overcome. (Click here to hear it)

Liberal leader Robert Menzies on "The forgotten people", 1942: "The middle class who, properly regarded, represent the backbone of this country: First, it has a responsibility for homes: homes material, homes human, homes spiritual ... Second, the middle class, more than any other, provides the intelligent ambition which is the motive power of human progress ... Third, the middle class provides more than any other the intellectual life that marks us off from the beast; the life which finds room for literature, for the arts, for science, for medicine and the law ... Individual enterprise must drive us forward."

PM Paul Keating honouring the Unknown Soldier, 1993: "On all sides they were the heroes of that war: not the generals and the politicians, but the soldiers and sailors and nurses - those who taught us to endure hardship, show courage, to be bold as well as resilient, to believe in ourselves, to stick together. The Unknown Australian Soldier we inter today was one of those who by his deeds proved that real nobility and grandeur belongs not to empires and nations but to the people on whom they, in the last resort, always depend. It is not too much to hope, therefore, that this Unknown Australian soldier might continue to serve his country - he might enshrine a nation's love of peace and remind us that in the sacrifice of the men and women whose names are recorded here there is faith enough for all of us.

Of the 74 responses to last week's column, 22 voted for speeches by Paul Keating (including Redfern, the Unknown Soldier, and Waltzing Matilda). Some simultaneously accused him of incompetence and arrogance.

Several readers pointed out that Keating's speeches were written by Don Watson. So perhaps Watson should get any glory we are handing out today. But as Denise Davies remarked: "Watson wrote the way Keating thought and spoke. No euphemisms, no unambiguous language. Keating is a clear sighted visionary and he had the good fortune to link up with a magnificent speech writer."

Or perhaps we should reward spontaneity. As Micky wrote: "You all missed the point - a great speech by an Australian PM that reflects the ambitions, loves, hates, fears and very soul of its people: 'Any boss who sacks a worker for not turning up today is a bum' - RJ Hawke on the morning after Australia II won the America's Cup yacht race, 1983.

There's one more nomination I'd like to make. We don't know the actual words used in this speech, but we know it had a powerful effect. It was given -- several times, probably --by the Aboriginal leader Pemulwuy early in the year 1790. It caused the previously passive tribes of the Sydney region to unite in a campaign of guerilla warfare against the people they saw as invaders. The warfare ended only when Pemulwuy was captured and beheaded in 1802.

I'll give more details about that in next week's column, but in the meantime, give us your view on the speeches nominated so far ...

David Dale is the author of Who We Are -- A snapshot of Australia today (Allen and Unwin). To discuss Australian attitudes, go to http://blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare.

COMMENTS

Curtin's spirit is giant and forever. The national enemy these days is the furtive inverts society dominating our Labor and Liberal parties. Can you imagine Orkopoulos being selected by Curtin?

  • by Anthony Monaghan on March 09, 2008 at 05:56 AM

I was privileged to be present when Paul Keating delivered that speech at the burial of the Unknown Soldier, and there wasn't a dry eye in the vicinity. Don Watson's words, yes, but spoken by a patriot and statesman, from the heart. The same words spoken by his successor would have fallen flat.

  • by Alan Slatyer on March 09, 2008 at 06:11 AM

Best speech ever made by an Australian must be that of Paul Keeting on election victory night 1992: "the victory of the true believers".

  • by andrew sullivan on March 09, 2008 at 06:13 AM

I miss Paul Keating.

  • by Kty on March 09, 2008 at 07:44 AM

AT least have the good grace to use Mr Curtin's image in the story. The man was a great leader, the picture that of just an actor. So we remember our greatest speeches, but choose not remember their image?

DD replies: Couldn't find an interesting pic of Curtin. Have replaced it with a waxwork of Ataturk

  • by Andrew Kay on March 09, 2008 at 07:55 AM

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's words are deeply moving. The generosity in reaching out to enemies, and in recognizing the shared tragedy of the two countries and the grief of the mothers, are astounding. And they continue to serve as a warning against futile wars.

  • by Michael Warlters on March 09, 2008 at 08:42 AM

Standing with a group of Australians beside the Memorial at Anzac Cove which carries the words of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, there were no dry eyes. They were the most moving and yet somehow comforting words, I have ever read.

  • by R.H. Byrnes on March 09, 2008 at 09:43 AM

Hitler was a great orator too. Of course Kemal Ataturk killed more innocent people in cold blood than Hitler. But his attempt to wipe out the Christians of the Ottoman Empire was Hitler's inspiration. A very appropriate choice as one of our great orators?

  • by Edward Ketterer on March 09, 2008 at 09:53 AM

Well said Andrew Kay (March 09 at 07.55am) - I agree with you wholeheartedly!

  • by Sandgroper on March 09, 2008 at 10:11 AM

I agree Keating was probabally our best speech writer. Such a shame that our society degenerated so far after he left. Is there any middle class left now?

  • by territoryman on March 09, 2008 at 10:36 AM

I miss Paul Keating too. And where is mention of that great deliverer of speeches, the immortal E G Whitlam? Few people delivered speeches with the conviction and passion of Gough and few people wrote them as gloriously as Graham Freudenberg.

  • by Peter on March 09, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Keating's speech about the republic in 1995 when he said our leader "should be one of us" was also stirring.

But I agree that, out of the above selection Ataturck is moving.

  • by Adrian on March 09, 2008 at 10:45 AM

If you read Don Watson's book "Recollections of a Bleeding Heart", its pretty clear that Keating's speeches were a joint effort between him and Keating.

  • by Ben Haines on March 09, 2008 at 11:12 AM

I will miss Keating and am sorry that the likes of him are not in the Rudd Government. Keating left the political scene with the plaudit of being a reformer, a master tactician, a person with a manic determination to get things done his way and possessed of a persuasive skill that was second to none.

  • by Palazhi on March 09, 2008 at 11:16 AM

While this Curtin speech is indeed one of his greatest, there is another speech, where Curtin defies the Japanese to attack and land on Australian soil, where he states that Australia will meet them and fight them inch for inch foot for foot yard by yard because the Australian people are the only people that stand for advancing Australia. He also asks Australians to give over their treasures for the cause of defeating the Japanese
Please I am writing this from memory, would it be possible to play a recording of this speech of Curtin's as you have done with this brilliant speech, I saw it on a war doco and it absolutely mesmerized me that I can still almost recite it from memory, all these years later.
My Uncle Leonard Douglas Hall was killed in action at Mushu Is, New Guinea with the 30th squadron Beaufighters, it would be gratefully appreciated.
And I truly believe it is even a better speech than this one.

  • by Rod Hall on March 09, 2008 at 01:06 PM

I am not particularly a Labor lover, but I do remember the speech given by Bob Hawke on the sending of troops to the 1st Gulf War.. you should revisit this one

  • by Bernie Lyster on March 09, 2008 at 04:01 PM

I miss Paul Keating too

  • by David on March 09, 2008 at 04:25 PM

you must give it to Paul Keating's Redfern speech. Visionary!

  • by Ron on March 09, 2008 at 04:47 PM

I had the privillage of meeting Paul Keating twice, once when he was campaigning in Brisbane in the late eighties when I was a secretary of one of the ALP branches there, and the second, when he came to Dubai in 1999 as a guest of a Leaders forum that I was invited to. On both occasions I was in awe of the man. Unlike his public persona, he was humble, approchable, and above all, an intellectual powerhouse of a visionary that Australia has squandered and replaced him with (you know who). Look where it got us after eleven years.

  • by Gary Hillali on March 09, 2008 at 07:13 PM

A speech is one thing -- but it must be matched with calibre of character.

On that score, which of our candiates mentioned in this column could turn out to be more than mere orators? Words are one thing; what of attitude and action? Suddenly the greatness of these men is much more open to debate.

In this vein, Edward Ketterer (above) notes Ataturk's killing of the innocent. If true, shouldn't this colour the way we view his inspiring words of comfort? What if it is a snake and not an eagle talking?

Another question we must ask, is whether the words of these men inspired others towards action and the greatness that is more than words?

Which brings me to my next question: any female orators of note?

  • by tfb on March 09, 2008 at 08:03 PM

You're kidding. Keating was good....but where is the vision? Curtin lead Australia in its darkest hour...and paid with his life. These guys, Curtin, Chifley, Menzies (despite sycophantic forelock tugging to the throne) spoke with vision for the development of the country. A vision for what it could be and courage to trust that their words could inspire the constituency to back them. Since then it's been a parlous grasping for power....no leadership...juts a cynical manipulation of the media and the people to ensure ongoing power. Listen Kevin, (and John before you) we clamour for leadership and a focus on the future that enshrines the Australian ethos for a fair go wiithout the corruption of two party politics and spin.

  • by you're kidding on March 09, 2008 at 08:23 PM

Buwhahahaha what a load of Labor party ego stroking you guys get up to with this crap. How BORING!

  • by Arthar Dunga on March 09, 2008 at 09:21 PM

I don't think anyone will with any great haste be calling John Howard a great orator but there is no doubt he always spoke with a great degree of conviction. In part this probably played a roll in his electoral success. His speech in accepting defeat at the last election I think will, with time, go down as one of the better speeches of our time.

  • by James on March 09, 2008 at 09:28 PM

I do NOT miss Paul Keating.

Now, can we get back on topic?

  • by Noons on March 09, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Keating was a great orator and a great patriotic Australian who said what he believed without bothering if he stepped on someones toes;he would not have sucked up to George Bush

  • by hortense vaughan on March 09, 2008 at 11:17 PM

What? No mention of Alexander Downer's infamous "The things that matter" speech?
I presume it is on YouTube??

  • by Sacs on March 10, 2008 at 01:27 PM

I sadly had never heard of the Curtin speech which clearly is one of our greatest. Fits nicely in tradition of Churchill's fit them on the beaches. But of the speeches Ive heard I think Whitlam's speech on September 11 1975 has to be one of our greatest.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen', because nothing will save the Governor-General'."

  • by Roland on March 11, 2008 at 07:59 AM

I sadly had never heard of the Curtin speech which clearly is one of our greatest. Fits nicely in tradition of Churchill's fit them on the beaches. But of the speeches Ive heard I think Whitlam's speech on September 11 1975 has to be one of our greatest.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen', because nothing will save the Governor-General'."

  • by Roland on March 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM

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